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Panzer213
March 9th, 2009, 03:40 PM
Which one is faster, and which one does the most damage? Also which one is best?

dantemirror
March 10th, 2009, 10:51 AM
I have seen some videos of it and i can tell ya
shoot<stinger

Why? Stinger has a 4 hit combo launcher(not good for edging like avenger 2 hit launcher but better for long combos and juggles), its normal nanmu juggle can do 20 hits alone (if an advanced combo is discovered, well is gonna be heavy)
It hurts hell of a lot but is not as fast as shoot.
MAIN ADVANTAGE: the special move totally OWNS, it gives you some invincibility frames and is EXCELLENT for taunting, it will play much more mind games and not just spamming rage as shoot.

Stinger just as shoot seems easy to juggle, is delayable and easier to angle (4 what I can see). Still i love shoot :D

TonyJaa
March 10th, 2009, 06:18 PM
All I can say is... STINGER FTW.

Though that's not going to come out very soon specially with OGplanet's update pace.

Sonatrix
March 10th, 2009, 06:24 PM
stinger moves to much for me, its all about LUCHA:dnw::dnw:

Blueblur
March 10th, 2009, 06:48 PM
which one is best?

OLD SCHOOL BOXING

dantemirror
March 10th, 2009, 07:13 PM
OLD SCHOOL BOXING

-_-U

I have the feeling that around the forum Old school is overestimated :iseewhatyoudidthar:

Try out new scrolls, they wont hurt, i promise :smilez:

Dist
March 10th, 2009, 07:22 PM
Something about Stinger doesn't give me that boxing feeling like Shoot and Old School gives. So for me it'd be: Shoot>Stinger.

RedLight
March 10th, 2009, 07:27 PM
Lets see...

Shoot has an unblockable.

Stinger has a dodge special move then 3 hits.

Shoot doesnt move forward alot.

Stinger does.

IMO I think Shoot is better.

Sin
March 10th, 2009, 08:52 PM
I just looked at Stinger on youtube, wow, it looked horrible.

It's purely to be flashy, it will probably never be used again a week after you buy it.

Shoot > Stinger

Easily.

Oblivion
March 10th, 2009, 09:15 PM
Shoot.

Stinger is to predicable and the movement are easy to read.

Komos
March 10th, 2009, 09:56 PM
Stinger is a SOPHIST ACTED Scroll, so I guess you all don't understand. It's like Guem. It's all about drift and delay, instead of SPAM like shoot. Don't get Stinger if you like spam like all these people recommending shoot, because spamming Stinger is fail.

dantemirror
March 10th, 2009, 10:04 PM
Stinger is a SOPHIST ACTED Scroll, so I guess you all don't understand. It's like Guem. It's all about drift and delay, instead of SPAM like shoot. Don't get Stinger if you like spam like all these people recommending shoot, because spamming Stinger is fail.

I agree with komos guys, stinger in hands of a good drifter will destroy shoot in a flash...
Is not that shoot is bad, is just that most people tend to abuse the spam and that kind of thing agains stinger is... well stupid, stinger special will own any kind of spammy scroll... and the combos are EASY to do

Oblivion
March 10th, 2009, 10:10 PM
I agree with komos guys, stinger in hands of a good drifter will destroy shoot in a flash...
Is not that shoot is bad, is just that most people tend to abuse the spam and that kind of thing agains stinger is... well stupid, stinger special will own any kind of spammy scroll... and the combos are EASY to do

If I had more info on the scroll, I'd agree. Like delay, angling and such abilities.

From the video, I posted my feelings on it.
Shoot has friggin annoying punches as well as confusing ones. That is the main reason why I prefer Shoot.

Another reason is that I can't beat shoot. Nor can I beat capoeira.

Komos
March 10th, 2009, 10:15 PM
Stinger's kG blows, unless you wanna trade hits. It's the KKK After that is beast.

Every, and I mean EVERY, hit in EVERY Stinger combo has SOME kind of delay.

Also, OSB'S kicks as a PK combo

AzureRevial
March 11th, 2009, 01:32 AM
I love Stinger juggle Starter. Run+Z.

Nobody really expects it. It's like, "Great, here's another tackle faggot." RUN+Z! "OMFG!" Juggled.

I would recommend stinger. Stinger is pro. Shoot is spam. P*P*P+P+K*P*P*P (Resume until dead or simply keep spamming, someone will fall for it)

Oblivion
March 11th, 2009, 02:10 AM
Stinger's kG blows, unless you wanna trade hits. It's the KKK After that is beast.

Every, and I mean EVERY, hit in EVERY Stinger combo has SOME kind of delay.

Also, OSB'S kicks as a PK combo

Delay in all? Hell yes.

ThisOne
March 11th, 2009, 08:39 AM
oooooo delay......i love delays =)
how are the angles on it?
If it can angle AND delay well i will totally go with stinger.....

TonyJaa
March 11th, 2009, 11:10 AM
Shoot.

Stinger is to predicable and the movement are easy to read.
Can't judge until you get em ;)

YourkillerRF
March 11th, 2009, 06:25 PM
stinger does Way more damage and just wins every time, that's the scroll I'm waiting for, not lucha, not bmn, Stinger.

YourkillerRF
March 11th, 2009, 06:30 PM
sorry for the double post but as i read the rest of this thread it excites me to know that most people don't like stinger :) nothing i love more than using an underrated scroll xD

Tsuki
March 11th, 2009, 07:58 PM
Just pointing this out

Boxing -> Stinger Boxing

Shoot Boxing = Standalone

DarknightK
March 11th, 2009, 08:21 PM
ERm...Whoever posted Stinger's Run+Z, that's not a combo.

Your thinking of Red Scorpion. It's juggle started is Run+Z

Stinger's launch combo is PPPP.

I have Stinger on gem. The delays in the punches are P*PP*P

The First punch has horrible recovery, so stop at the third punch.

The kicks have these delays: K*K*K*KK

The fourth K is a pop-up.
Partially Angle-friendly.

KP = Nice Getaways, Excellent Angling.

kG (KKK) Probably the most useful combo in here. It's kG adds a few invincibility frames so you can't get thrown after you use this. KKK is short, and knocks back a good distance.

All i have to say. :3

Panzer213
March 11th, 2009, 08:52 PM
ERm...Whoever posted Stinger's Run+Z, that's not a combo.

Your thinking of Red Scorpion. It's juggle started is Run+Z

Stinger's launch combo is PPPP.

I have Stinger on gem. The delays in the punches are P*PP*P

The First punch has horrible recovery, so stop at the third punch.

The kicks have these delays: K*K*K*KK

The fourth K is a pop-up.
Partially Angle-friendly.

KP = Nice Getaways, Excellent Angling.

kG (KKK) Probably the most useful combo in here. It's kG adds a few invincibility frames so you can't get thrown after you use this. KKK is short, and knocks back a good distance.

All i have to say. :3


Is it your favorite scroll in gem?

ThisOne
March 13th, 2009, 11:49 AM
I got to say....either the people using stinger just suck that ive played against....or ive just gotten used to fight the "boxing" scrolls....
i havent lost to stinger once so far (except for in dos where i didnt expect to bounce off the ground and over the fence....) i was like WTF? O_O

but one on one i havent lost yet......can someone show me personally the juggles and nanmu?
ive seen the videos but i want to see the damage and other stuff for myself
Please and thanks

TonyJaa
March 13th, 2009, 11:52 AM
ERm...Whoever posted Stinger's Run+Z, that's not a combo.

Your thinking of Red Scorpion. It's juggle started is Run+Z

Stinger's launch combo is PPPP.

I have Stinger on gem. The delays in the punches are P*PP*P

The First punch has horrible recovery, so stop at the third punch.

The kicks have these delays: K*K*K*KK

The fourth K is a pop-up.
Partially Angle-friendly.

KP = Nice Getaways, Excellent Angling.

kG (KKK) Probably the most useful combo in here. It's kG adds a few invincibility frames so you can't get thrown after you use this. KKK is short, and knocks back a good distance.

All i have to say. :3
He probably got confused with red scorpion and stinger which makes sense in a way since scorpions sting you xD

but.. ThisOne you have to give time for them to be good at it.

Those scrolls that you can be good at so easily in a short amount of time *ahem* shoot *ahem* tends to be the "easy" scroll

Soo give it a lil more time :D

DarknightK
March 13th, 2009, 12:03 PM
It took me 4 days to learn how to move with stinger (A week and a half with Lucha.)

x.x

But I do like Stinger, can't wait for it in RF.

ThisOne
March 13th, 2009, 01:19 PM
True...i should give it more time.....i guess not everyone picks up a scroll and just does the juggle like i do lol

(I got bags juggle figured out after 4 hours, Kobudo took me a day or two, Karate i got within a day,and vale....well i just couldnt get that one so quick lol took me 3 days to get the timing...)


I only keep scrolls that are hard to master or hard to use.....and which case make them fun

End @ TonyJaa

@Anyone lols
scrolls that make it extremely easy to win i sell......i dont know whether its me winning or the scroll...id rather it be me =)
Ive sold many scrolls out of boredom.....
i have sold Shoot boxing, Mao(three times i dunno why i keep buyin it) Shao, MT(sold once but bought it again and i LOVE it), Judo(yesterday),kobudo(boredom) just about everything else because it was boring to use or it just made it too easy to win.

The scrolls i currently have are in my signature.
i havent had renegade for a long time and bought it again yesterday....(lmao sold judo and bought renegade O_O ZOMGFTWZORS'?) I think it was worth it lol
The buff renegade got....made it SO MUCH BETTER its so much :win: now =)
i was bored in class so im sorry if i rambled =p

DarknightK
March 13th, 2009, 02:51 PM
Whut buff. o-o <.< >.>???

ZeroGravity
March 13th, 2009, 08:57 PM
Huh ? What Buff ?

RedLight
March 13th, 2009, 10:12 PM
renegade got a buff...ThisOne just said it.

TonyJaa
March 14th, 2009, 01:39 AM
I think it was the unblockable 2nd kick one was it o.o

RedLight
March 14th, 2009, 02:17 AM
yea. Cuz I remember when I had renegade like ppl shouldn't be able to block the 2nd kick but now you cant.